In this episode we discuss Rohan’s first few weeks in Dartmouth. He’ll tell us how he met new friends, picked his classes and how his high school experience compares to the rigor and pressure of an Ivy League college.

Part 1 is here

Transcription

Kamila
Welcome to part two of my interviews bro hon, if you want to check out part one, please do that. Subscribe. And I hope you guys enjoy

Okay, so you arrive to college on your freshman year, right? So how did they do the dorm room situation for you guys at Dartmouth?

Rohan
So it’s randomly sorted. So well, sort of. So you select your preferences for like, the kind of armor like, look, first of all, you select, like, what time you wake up your general routine and stuff like that. So they can match you with a roommate let similar sort of schedule so you don’t disturb each other, you know, and then they random sort of assign you to a dorm, because there’s some dorms, which are really, really, really good and are just like hotels, basically. And there’s and there are a couple dorms, which are really bad, like built in, like 1960s. And well, those are like a minority of students, like, not many students get assigned to those dorms compared to like the Bougie dorms. And I was unlucky. And I got to the dorm furthest away from the center of campus, which is the oldest also. But yeah, that’s that’s what happened. But it’s not too bad. Because in those dorms, those dorms, the rooms are larger, and they have like, more division. So I was in a three room double, which means it’s two people share three rooms. So I and my roommate had our own little rooms. And then we had a common room for ourselves wasn’t the best quality room but like we had, like, significant personal space. And yeah, yeah. Also, in the worst dorms, I think you get like the really closest community. Because no, it’s gonna sound really sad. No one really comes there to party or like, so you’re all by yourself, all the dorms to like party and chill around, you know, or hang out. Like if you if you go out to party, you go to one of the booths, your dorms, most of the other dorms and hang out there. So so the people who end up staying in these worst storms face, because you’ve just spent so much time with each other, you end up getting really close. So that was that was a good part that he got coming to a really close community, which is really, really nice,

Kamila
guys. So you’re still friends with like the people that you were in your kind of dorm situation with

Rohan
your closest friends, but like we were close enough that I could always I know I’ve never feel like anxious talking to them on campus. They’re always just a community you can come back to if you had a bad day, or if you’re just out or if you’re just like you spend most your day on campus study and you come back and can talk to these people. Always like there’s no, like there’s no, you always have a community come back to you basically is what I’m trying to say. That’s very

Kamila
sweet. Okay, so you start I don’t I mean, I’ve never visited Dartmouth, like I’ve visited other colleges. So I kind of know what the situation is like. But in Dartmouth, do they have like a set of classes that every, you know, what is it called freshmen and sophomore need to take like just core classes that you are required to take, regardless of your major.

Rohan
So yeah, so most of the Ivy’s and they don’t have a core curriculum, it’s just Columbia in that regard, like me may have been referring to that maybe. So at Dartmouth, you only have two courses you’re required to take freshman year, in your first quarter, you take a freshman writing class, which can be writing five, which is basically just a writing class based on a topic like each writing five has their own topic writing writing, too, which is basically for people who are not as strong writers originally, you take sorry, you take before coming Dartmouth, you answer like a little a little test, and then you can choose which reading probe, they’ll give you a placement and you can pick your program based on their recommendation or not. And then or you could take humanities, which is a basically a great book score. So I took humanities okay. And then in the second term, you have to take a seminar, which is like export another exploration of a topic. Basically, I work with, like, you have readings and you do discuss you discuss the topic, and then you write papers on the topic, analyzing it, and it varies varies wildly depending on what you choose.

Kamila
Okay, so basically, you kind of had like, a lot of, not a lot of, but like pretty much, okay, I’m gonna say a lot of freedom and choosing, like the classes your freshman year. So did you did you immediately like dive into environmental studies? And just like, make sure like majority of your classes were focused on that?

Rohan
No. So in addition to the requirement during the course of your undergraduate career, you have to take you have to do a foreign language. So I decided to get that done with early because why not? And so I along with my because you generally take a Dartmouth three courses a quarter, it’s not, it sounds like not much, but it’s actually quite a lot because it’s within a shorter period of time and you dive a lot deeper into it, I think, than other course systems. Yeah, I know. Yeah. So I took my first quarter I took that humanities one of the great books course. And I took first I took introduction to Japanese, I decided to try out Japanese because I was already interested in the culture. And I also took I took one course in a geography department called urbanization environment, which counts as an environmental studies credit as well, but it’s in the Geography Department. So that was my first quarters Courseload. And my freshman year, I think that in for the entirety of freshman year, like my mom was done. Now, that was actually the only course in that had to do with environmental studies that I took, I started like, just like, took a bunch of different things. I tried to fulfill quirements for foreign study programs or off campus study programs in the summer that I was interested in. And I basically didn’t didn’t feel the need to dive deep into my major from the get go, okay, because I know, freshman year is like your best time to look explore, especially if you don’t have a core curriculum.

Kamila
Okay, so how did you end up choosing the two like kind of fields and then combining them to make like one sort of big major, like, how did you come upon that?

Rohan
Oh, so I mean, I took political, AP, comparative politics and government in high school, I did very, I did quite well in the class. And I found myself very interested by the concepts, and upon discussion upon session with people around my boarding school. And then at Dartmouth, we had various events with like professionals in the non governmental field, some of which were environmental. And upon talking to him, I came upon the realization that they helped me find that the policy realm is probably the most important one in the near future in regards to environmental change. Because basically, I was told, I’ve been told that, well, I’ve been told, I also understood the idea that there’s a lot of research in the environmental field about what to do, in regards to the rising crises of climate change and mass extinction. And there’s a lot of, and there’s a lot of, like, there’s a lot of capability to do those things. Like we already have the ability to change our energy system and make changes in the structure the structure of our economy, to deal with our own problems. But the the transition point requires policy, like you need to make laws and, and through through through policymaking, get the community to agree two sets of rules that they will be will follow in regards to the environmental change. So I realized I understood now that that’s the most important, that’s going to be the most important round to work in and for the environmental problems that I want to really have have an impact on the future. So I decided that that would probably be the direction I want my degree to go.

Kamila
Okay, so you kind of want to be like the bridge between like, ideas, and then actually executing the ideas and having ideas actually make an impact.

Rohan
Yes, exactly. Exactly. I can also like, I really like research, I could also do research, I suppose, as well, but doing by modifying the government, it basically expands my horizons, I can do a lot of different things now so I could do research I don’t want to do policy if I wanted to. This leave makes makes me able to take a career in in a much wider variety of things.

Kamila
So give yourself like a broad spectrum to select Choose

Rohan
from Yeah, choose from based on what I feel like it has the most impact in

Kamila
Okay, so is this like a common thing to do at Dartmouth to combine two things that you’re really interested in and kind of study them together?

Rohan
Yes, very, very, very common. Because a lot of people wanted are really interested or like, have like two or three things that they really really love and be doing a double majors a lot of course requirements. And it really, it really like will become the focus of your undergraduate career you can really explore the modified major major allows you to do less of one field more of the other so that you can fit it into your larger interest. And people have moved many, many people tend to do that. So in our studies model have the government is I say, probably less common. The general thing that most a lot of people do was like economics modified with computer science, or economics modified with government or government of health economics to like, those of the general careers people are tend to be interested in like, finance and computer science and government work. So a lot of a lot of people generally modify fields to like really widen their, their ability to pursue various

Kamila
careers. That’s, that’s awesome. I never I don’t know if any other colleges do that. Wow. Like I had not known anything about Dartmouth before I like bitterly talking to you right now.

Rohan
Yeah, well, I only learned about the Modify major upon arriving on campus. So

Kamila
that’s amazing. Because like, I don’t know if this is just me, but you know how like the three holy Ivy’s Princeton, Harvard, and then Yale, I think it is, you know, they’re kind of like glorified, and like everybody knows about them. Like if you go to a foreign country, like my relatives back in Asia, they only know Harvard. That’s like, pretty much it and they don’t know that like, for example, Princeton is ranked higher than Harvard. So they only know about Harvard. But that’s really interesting. I hadn’t. And I was kind of like that, too. I only knew about the holy trinity of schools. I didn’t know that’s so cool.

Rohan
Yeah. So interestingly, I would very much argue not to look at rankings, like those are their metrics are really not have nothing really to do are very first of all self fulfilling and have nothing really to do with undergraduate, even the undergraduate teaching one and nothing really to do with undergraduate education. Because two of the major factors in the US News ranking, our acceptance rates, the small acceptance rate, the higher ranking Yeah, like Stanford definitely top Yeah, and and reviews from other top schools, like this is a self fulfilling prophecy, the lower your acceptance rate at the lower acceptance rate. And the older you are, then then the other other schools in the area, every other schools in that in that tier will give you higher, higher higher ratings, higher ratings, and more people will apply to you. So it’s basically the less likely you are the higher ranking you get and more people apply to you. Therefore your your search for keep collectivity keeps going ground going down. And the older and more prestigious, you are like people, people think you’re better and more people apply when people apply to you and your peer schools think you’re better. And so it just keeps going on in the self fulfilling cycle. If a new school came up, founded 10 years ago, there was had like they hired the best faculty really looked looked hard to find the best students for their body, they would not get a very high ranking, because because other schools would simply first of all not reviewed them well, because they’re not reputable. And their acceptance rate wouldn’t be that high to begin with. So honestly, it’s just yeah, I just really hate this rankings. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy, like a lot of people my father really wanted did not want me to go to, I want to go to different Ivy, not Dartmouth, and a lot of people. A lot of people told me that I should apply to a difference to other schools. But I mean, honestly, like when you when you reach, you should not consider rankings. In my opinion, when selecting a school, it’s just the worst way to select a school, just like school based on what you feel you want to do in your undergraduate career. And actually, like achieving undergraduate career and the things you feel will make your undergraduate career worth while so you select a school based on that and not based on what an arbitrary ranking says a school is worth.

Kamila
Yeah, that’s why we need people like you to tell us about the different schools. So yeah. Okay, so more about darkness. How did you this is kind of like a general question that directly about Dartmouth, but how did you kind of like, reach out and make friends and kind of introduce yourself to new people? Was it just through like, the classes that you guys took? Or was it going to parties and meeting new people?

Rohan
So interestingly, so in the first six weeks of school at Dartmouth, you’re not allowed to go to frat, or sorority or read society, or really attend any party that’s not dry? So right, like no alcohol whatsoever? Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, so, and those tend to be very small. So I didn’t really go out to party. Really, though some some people socialize that way. I’d say I, what I did socializing wise, was I went to basically all the introductory meetings for any club, I thought seemed remotely interesting, even though I never actually joined most of them. But I even went or various orientations, like they had a library orientation. And a lot of people went to, I went to it, I went to it. So they and they sent us on like these missions to find various books to show that we could like orient ourselves in the library. I’m still not good at that, by the way, I get lost. But through those things, I met a lot of people. Also, before coming to Dartmouth, I had attended like, like an a meet up of all the accepted Indian students. And I met a few people there. I’m friends, those people still and other people through them. So basically, that’s, that’s what I did. I met this. I met this one guy, like six times in the space of 48 hours at six different meetings. And by the second I knew his name by the six, I think we were like very good friends. And we’re still very good friends. And I think he’s probably meant to be Yeah, so we were Yeah. So I basically like met a lot of people through that and a lot of people through my floor and socialize that way. Also, the Dartmouth introductory period, really allows you to explore because for international students, there’s a week of orientation for regular students of orientation. So you have I had basically a two week orientation period, plus we had our trips where we went on like these trips in the wilderness and bonded, so I met a lot of people through that and socialized that. So

Kamila
Dartmouth does give you opportunities, besides like your class, like they give you set sessions and times and events to actually meet people. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And through this and just through your freshman year in general, how diverse Do you think Dartmouth is like, how does it represent minorities

Rohan
is very, very, very diverse. I think, if I’m not mistaken, the latest statistic is that Dartmouth is only 49% White, which is

Kamila
Yeah, I think There’s just like, that’s, that’s so I’ve never seen that

Rohan
incredibly Yeah, it’s a it’s was less, it’s less, it’s much less than the actual demographics of the of the, the actual white American in the population. So it’s just like extremely diverse school huge diversity of viewpoints. There is like a set group of people who are like from New England who are like prep school kids, which is like a sort of like, I call it like a species you can see they’re not bad people. They’re nice people, but like, detect them as like, because they’re like, I think the you probably call them the largest single demographic on campus, even though they’re not majority by any mean. But so in the beginning of the first few weeks, like those people like all the kids from like Andover, Exeter, still, like, hung together, because they knew each other, you know, yeah, but over the course of the first term, that’s our change that people started like, breakout find, meet new people, and it became a much more like, dive diverse experience for everyone. It was yeah, it was honestly it’s a it’s so every, every day I meet, like, really amazing people from all over the world even and with my very diverse pursuits, career wise, very passionate about their pursuits, and like, very different ethnic and cultural background. It’s really cool. And what the great thing DARPA does is that because we were originally founded to be an educational institute for Native Americans very paternalistic was was like, teach them like the goal of Dartmouth was to teach Native Americans to be civil basically, and give them Christianity, stuff like that, like save them basically, um, up. While we haven’t done like, kept that obviously, we have kept our commitment to Native American education. So this is a much higher proportion of Native American students at Dartmouth than any other elite institution. In fact, we’ve graduated more Native American students than all the other Ivy’s combined, actually,

Kamila
yeah, cuz like the port is when I look at the demographics and the statistic, the Native American portion, and just like really, any other race is just really slim. And like, it’s not that much. And when I saw Dartmouth, that was amazing. So I’m not surprised that they prioritize Native Americans do. It’s amazing. So one thing I’m curious about is, did you find it hard to adjust to college because high school and college are not the same thing? So do you think the AP any AP courses prepared you for the rigor of college?

Rohan
Yeah, actually, um, I would say the one course that prepared me the most for college, even though I didn’t actually enjoy it while taking it was AP microeconomics, I thinking of taking that, you should totally take that I have been using the concepts in that course and applying them to literally every course I’ve taken from the great books, English course, to environmental environmental studies, to public policy, to political statistics, stuff like that. It’s just such a useful course to apply to everything. Everything around every field, it’s just like, it can be applicable to, to every field in various ways. And I’ve been bringing up concepts that course all the goddamn time, it’s just been very useful to me, even though it’s not my field. So my main field has just been extremely useful to what I’ve what I’ve been doing, like I use part of it to economically accurately assess the world of Dracula, for instance, like the the Society of Dracula, when my gradebook scores like, Who would have thought I could, I could do that. But it’s just yeah, it’s just such use such a useful thing to do. Like, it’s not just not just academically when you’re societies and things, you’ll be joining the various talks, you’ll be hearing, like, a basic understanding of economics makes you first of all able to understand them a lot more and be able, unable to like really take what they’ve what those people have given you, and apply it to a much wider variety of things, variety things. I’m sorry, I think I’m a little confused in explaining it. But that’s basically how I feel about the course. Awesome. Yeah, my AP environmental science courses and political courses were helpful for my fields. I honestly think AP marker, nomics was just the most useful

Kamila
by far. Okay, so what is your homework load at Dartmouth? Or more generally, how do you like balance homework, social life, just chilling out going to, you know, your clubs and different meetings that Dartmouth holds.

Rohan
So there is a term of dark magic called FaceTiming, which is, as someone who was involved in a lot of things, I am totally that person. i So. So, the thing, when you go to college, it’s just a general thing that happens, you’re going to spend a lot less time in class and a lot less do a lot less work in class. And most of your work is outside of class in your quote unquote, free time. It’s not free time. Can you call it but it is supposedly free time.

Kamila
Okay, but so So, yeah.

Rohan
So you basically end up spending lots of hours at the library during a personal gain. You have to really create a schedule for yourself to do a lot more work outside of class than you were ever used to. And because it’s an elite college dictation is very, very high, because everyone at Dartmouth can write stylistically, everyone at Dartmouth can, you know, use words have more syllables and they should, I don’t know. But basically Evernote can provide a detailed analysis a detailed point of view that gets you like what got me an A plus in high school gets me a be at our college, it’s just, it’s just because that’s the that’s the, that’s the like, that’s what you’re supposed to do. That’s like the requirement. It like, honestly, like my court to get good grades, my course my courses require me to do a much greater to go into much greater depth in terms of my understanding of the subject and my analysis and subject than I ever have before. And it’s exhausting, but it’s also very rewarding. And my my clubs as well, I’m doing a lot more things I’m interested in, and I’m doing a lot of different clubs. And this first year, probably the saying about international studies and social social impact. That takes up a lot of my time. So in the end, I basically like for my first two terms at Dartmouth now because it’s pass fail. It’s online, it’s been a lot. Yeah. But refers to the Dartmouth and they got an average of like, five hours of sleep per night, which is not good. But I was, I was doing a lot of amazing things every single day. And I was so rewarding. I honestly, I couldn’t cut down there were many points of my time I couldn’t cut down but I chose not to because I was just enjoying it honestly a lot.

Kamila
Yeah, that’s why I’m like so excited for college because I’m kind of sick of like, being in high school. And like, it’s kind of not the same for everyone. But you know, you have a set a class and you got to go to the classes, they’re required classes. And they tell you, you need to do really good extracurriculars and stuff. So college sounds so fun. Like all these things you can do oh my god, and you can like manage your time and create your own schedule.

Rohan
Yeah, and one more point about Dartmouth is because it unlike most elite schools is it is an undergraduate focus College, meaning the undergrad, the undergrads heavily outnumber the postgraduate students and and like most of the resources, the colleges go to undergrads, from the day you step foot on campus, like all your class sizes, most your class sizes are very small. And they’re all aside from one section of first year calculus. They’re all taught by professors. So which is unlike most other elite school, so you get like, a really like, first of all, you develop, like, engage in conversation with your classmates and go into detail on subjects. And you have, and you have like really close access and get get really get develop really good relationships with your professors from day one, which is really, really cool. Because these are all like, amazing people, both your classmates and friends. It’s just amazing people. So you can like, get good relationships with with them, which is very unlike most schools I’ve looked at,

Kamila
yeah, it’s good. It’s discussion based. So do you think that Dartmouth has like, you were saying how Dartmouth had made you analyze stuff and really think about stuff? So do you think you kind of changed the whole perspective on stuff? Were there ever times when Dartmouth really challenged you, but you really felt you were stepped out of your comfort zone? And you felt like you had this whole new way of thinking,

Rohan
I suppose Oh, yeah, yeah. So when I was taking my introduction to public policy class in the winter quarter, he, my professor, basically changed the way I think about political dynamics in the world basically change the way I think about human behavior. And, and it was just incredible, like, he made us read this book, and then we analyze it in class about him, I called the righteous mind, the Jonathan Haidt. And we learned that I’ll just explain very brief briefly, we learned that basically, people and it makes complete sense that people judge how to do things based on their gut reactions. And they developed logical reasons to justify them. So fighting people based on logic, actually doesn’t do as much good as you might think. And I know, this doesn’t seem like huge, but in the context of we’re learning, and if you were to really take that class and understand it, or even just read the book, you would, well, you could gain some understanding by reading the book, like it really like I think, for everyone in class really change our idea of how people behave and how to behave with other people, if people have different viewpoints and how to converse with them. And honestly, I’ve been using it a lot since then, it was, honestly, I was such a great concept that I’m now applying everywhere, like, even other courses, it was sort of like that, but this was just the most significant instance I can think of.

Kamila
So it’s kind of like your micro economics, you’re kind of applying it to more things than you would have thought of.

Rohan
Yeah, and that happens. Yeah, that happens with a lot of courses. You’re like I was applying, because it’s a liberal arts school. You start applying, you started becoming really in the way you think, interdisciplinary, like I was applying concepts I learned from Plato and my great books course to my career. and urbanization and environment like what he thought about the idea of pieces of the act of creation. And it was just like, and that was the base instance. But I think that what I’ve learned in college is like how to apply one field to another that are completely different and in ways that I have never even before imagined.

Kamila
That’s amazing. So Dartmouth gives you this great opportunity you’re making me want to apply now. So I know in general, especially with like, the more prestigious schools, it’s, you’re expected to do a lot like you were saying, everybody at Dartmouth can write like really nicely, and make it like, formatted nicely and stuff. But do you ever find because I’m sure you were kind of like at the top of your class in high school, you were kind of there, not a cut above the rest. But there were times where you were kinda like, held to higher expectations. But did you ever find in Dartmouth kind of like, wow, around me or a lot of people who kind of like, think like me, who were the same as me in high school? Do you ever feel like that?

Rohan
Yeah, so sort of, so when I, my first, the first class of English of my great books, course humanities, we’ve, we’ve been made, we’ve been assigned to a meeting beforehand. And I came to I came with like a detailed, like, viewpoint to discuss and like various follow ups and stuff. And I got to say, my first statement, I don’t think I got to see anything else the rest of the class, because I came to realize very quickly that everyone in that class had a very detailed viewpoint on the on the work that we were discussing, I think it was played out Plato’s Symposium, and on the first part of the symposium, and we were, and everyone had a very, like, amazing eye on me a very, like detailed idea of what the work meant to them, and what the work meant for society. And basically, we got, like, every time someone else spoke, we got pulled into another rabbit hole of a follow up discussion on that, and then the topic change, like very, very quickly. It was it was it was incredible. And I was honestly very, very startled. But also, just like, flabbergasted, like, everyone had a very complex viewpoint on this very, very honestly. On this, this very significant work. And I didn’t, I didn’t as I used to do an English class like, Well, I wasn’t one of the people direct directly to discussion. I was just one, like cog in the discussion who occasionally spoke. And I was very, I was both surprised by that. And happy about that. That was just showed me how incredible the people around me were.

Kamila
That’s, that’s amazing. Yeah, and I, I agree with you, discussion based classes, more like seminar based classes, I think are much more beneficial to people. And I can imagine you guys only have like, a set amount of time, and you have like, so many viewpoints and details and stuff to discuss, and you can’t like get it all through in one sitting.

Rohan
Yeah, definitely. It’s amazing. So it’s a Yeah, so it tells me very quickly, and it’s very hard to stay on one disk one topic for the whole time. But, you know, that’s the nature of the institution. I’m very happy to be part of that very, I feel very lucky that I’m able to be part of that.

Kamila
Okay, I see that. So we’re coming to an end here. I want to know, just a few more things. What advice would you give to current high schoolers? Maybe middle schoolers if they’re listening this early? So what advice would you give in applying to college? And then once you get to college, what advice would you give in being like an actual college student? So that’s kind of like two separate questions.

Rohan
Right, right. When applying to college, I would just again, re stress do not think about the rankings, like it’s just those are none of those are very, there’s a self, they’re self fulfilling, first of all, and they have their own metrics. And most of that most of what they do is not at all applicable to an undergraduate education, you should, what you should really do is research the school in depth. And the schools that excites you, it’s good to have programs that excite you, even if they’re not super prestigious, or as prestigious as some other schools. That’s the school you should apply to honestly, forget about what other people think forget about the average person in the grocery store thinks about you, it should it should be, you should go to the institution you really feel would really give you the undergrad experience that you just that you want, that you want to shoot for. As for once you get to college, I would say, Do not be constrained by your major in matter what university you go to liberal arts or big research university, or even if you’re like in a college of engineering and in within a research university, I would say just take for at least for your first year, go out explore anything that excites you. Anything that makes you think that I really want to know more about this, because I think that you know, in your junior and senior years for sure and a little bit in your sophomore year, you’re going to have to start like diving more directly into this If you’re major and your first year college, your first year and a half of college is going to be the time, you really get to explore a variety of different fields. So that’s what you should really should do. You’re really the only time in life you can do it.

Kamila
So I know you weren’t able to like tour these colleges. So do you think that would be your best advice to just do as much research? And then look at the colleges that seemed most appealing and just go with your gut feeling?

Rohan
A partial Yeah, so it’s not Yeah, see, most appealing? Yeah, in terms of both of your program and all the things you want? So I wouldn’t say so. Which is it is it is partially gut. Yeah, I’ll base if you guys had the opportunity to tour Good on you, and you really like to school. But I think it’s also partially like, knowing what you really want from it. Like, I really, really, I think I really needed small class sizes from a college experience, I really wanted a close community feel. And that doesn’t come at every just every, every school. And I Dartmouth really gave me when I wanted to do a lot of study abroad. So I wanted to go to a bunch of different countries, not just one. And Dartmouth really gave me those opportunities with their core system. They’re really flexible schedule and their opportunity for international study. And so it really gave me the opportunities. I wanted my undergrad education. And so it’s partially God but also partially like knowing what you want the things you want to do, and looking for where that’s available.

Kamila
Okay, that was quite beautiful. It seems like you found a Love and Darkness. Thank you. That’s quite nice. I think I’m gonna apply. We’ll see you do. Okay, so thank you so much for agreeing to be interviewed Rojas. It means a lot because, you know, you get rejections. People saying no, I don’t want to be interviewed and stuff. So it really means a lot to me. Thank you very much. And I really genuinely enjoyed everything you told me and your experience, and your experience is quite unique. It’s not like you just lived in America did your four years of high school and apply so that was very nice of you. I wish you you and all your listeners the best of luck for the college process. Thank you. Bye. Bye. So college kids. That concludes part two of my interview with ro hot make sure to subscribe to see more great content like this, because next I’m going to be dropping an interview with the girl who just told Princeton she will be in their class of 2024 You do not want to miss that. hope see you guys then bye