When Jasmine was still a young girl, she got into a severe car accident. Her dad was in critical condition, and she saw how her dad’s life was saved by a doctor, which inspired her to pursue a career in medicine.

Part 2 is here.

Transcription

Kamila
Hey, college kids, welcome back to my podcast, who cares about college? In today’s episode, I’ll be interviewing Jasmine. So Jasmine, could you please introduce yourself?

Jasmine
Hey, I’m Jasmine. I’m from Texas. My major is mathematical biology. I’m a senior and I’m the student body president of the University of Houston.

Kamila
So we’ll get into the stuff you do in college a little bit later. But let’s start with the very basic stuff. So when did you start thinking about college? When did it ever enter your mind? Or maybe your parents told you about it? So when did you start thinking about it and preparing?

Jasmine
I was, I’m lucky enough that my dad was a high school teacher for a long time. So he was really familiar kind of with the college application process. So I kind of always knew that, at some point, I was gonna go to college, I think I didn’t really start seriously thinking about it until my junior year. And from there, it was just looking around and seeing what would be the best options around me what was nearby, taking price into consideration all that. So I probably didn’t start really seriously thinking about applying until my junior year of high school.

Kamila
And you said your dad was a teacher? So did he ever, like, pressure you into starting earlier? Or say like, oh, you know, you should start on your LSAT or a CT prep where you should make sure you get like, you know, straight A’s or just really good grades in general. So did you ever feel that pressure,

Jasmine
I definitely felt the pressure. My entire life probably to try to get good grades and really care about school. But honestly, in high school, I didn’t really start to care. I didn’t really start to care about college until until I was really in it. In high school. When I was applying I I wasn’t really into it. I wasn’t really excited about it. At the time, I was just I was very unmotivated. So it I did feel that pressure. But at the time, I didn’t feel like that pressure really was helping me be inspired or motivated to apply for college.

Kamila
Okay, so you’d started your junior year Tell me when? Well, let’s start actually freshman year. So you said you weren’t really excited about the process or like started until junior year, but in your freshman year, did you still have you know, good grades and still made sure like everything was good? Or were you a little bit like maybe a little bit of a slacker because a lot of people kind of slack until junior year like really hits them and then they start, you know, piling on the APS and making sure they get like straight A’s.

Jasmine
I would definitely say so I think that that’s pretty much exactly what happened to me. My freshman year went, Okay, my sophomore year, was a little bit of a slump. And I didn’t honestly I didn’t really start to care about I was always taking AP classes, I was something because of my parents, I was always really encouraged to do. I think one of my mistakes in high school was just taking so many AP classes at once, and not really taking those super seriously. And just kind of going through and thinking that I could just go through high school without really studying without really caring too much. And it wasn’t until probably even my senior year where I started to take it a little bit more seriously because I knew that you know, college was coming up and I needed to start applying and I needed to have good grades and I it was a little it was too little too late. So honestly, I would say like if you’re thinking of applying for college, you need to start really thinking about it seriously your freshman year and understand that your GPA follows you like all of high school so even if you are a freshman, you know, you shouldn’t take too much on your plate if you’re not going to be able to do well in those classes.

Kamila
And so coming out of freshman year and sophomore year, how did your grades look overall and have to get a sense how many AP or honors classes did you take in those those two underclassman years?

Jasmine
Um, I’m trying to remember, honestly, like my grades were okay, I would say that in my AP classes. I was taking I think I took AP Biology my sophomore year, and I took pre APS on on like everything else. But that’s that’s another thing that I feel like I should have. I should have just waited on just not taking pre AP classes and just taking regular classes if they didn’t offer us just an AP class because I feel like those pre AP classes may have might have been harder. And I wasn’t really able to study for those as hard as I as I probably should have when I was taking pre AP and AP classes at the same time. But I remember doing pretty well. in AP biology, and that being one of the more formalized AP classes that I took in the beginning of those two years, I think everything else at the time was just pre AP. And

Kamila
can you elaborate on what pre AP is because I don’t, I don’t think I know what that is.

Jasmine
What at my high school anyway, they had regular classes, they had what they called college prep classes, and then they had a pre AP class. So they would kind of divide up students or students were able to kind of pick wherever they wanted to fall. And then they had like an inflated like GPA system where if you took, if you took like a pre AP class, you would get maybe like another GPA point. So it was your GPA would be out of, I think we had it like out of five or something like that, like a 5.0, which is kind of crazy. That’s the way it worked at my high school. And I know other high schools might do that as well. But it was you get an extra GPA point. But the thing is, like, if you still do badly in that class, you might as well have just gotten an A in a regular class or a college prep class. And those pre IPS don’t really prepare you or I don’t think they really prepared me for what an AP class was going to be like. AP classes are just a whole different, whole different ballgame.

Kamila
I see. Okay. Yeah, that’s, I think we have something similar. It’s called the honors, but it doesn’t like prepare you for AP, it’s just certain subjects or honor in certain subjects, or AP. Interesting. Okay. So in the end of high school, after all your years, all those years accumulating together, what did your GPA that was out of the typical 4.0 And then the one that you talked about that was out of 5.0? So what did those two end up being?

Jasmine
Um, I’m trying to remember to be quite honest, I don’t know if I if I remember exactly what the numbers were. Just because that was, I mean, at this point, that was like more than four years ago, or about four years ago. So it’s been a while. But I think I think probably a three five on like a 4.0 scale, on a 5.0. I don’t even know maybe maybe around like similar, similar scale, I think. But it was, it’s weird, because my high school that did like the inflated GPA thing, other colleges didn’t, or other high schools didn’t do that. So then they would have to kind of convert, so I’m not really sure I just I got mostly B’s in high school. That was really, that was mostly what I was doing. I didn’t start really making A’s until probably my last two semesters. So like, my, my junior year, and the last few semesters of senior years is when I started really taking it a little bit more seriously.

Kamila
Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. And so what with the schools that you apply to, at least the ones that you were mostly considering, was your GPA? About average, below average, above average? So where did you fall in terms of the class average?

Jasmine
Um, I would say that I fell around like the average GPA for the schools that I applied to I attended to apply to very local things, things in Texas, around my city, just because I knew that I wanted to stay closer to home because I wanted to save money in the long run. So that’s that’s kind of what I ended up going for.

Kamila
Okay, and what about your APs in the end? How many APS did you take throughout high school?

Jasmine
I took so many I pretty much took every science AP that you could that you can think of AP, chem AP Bio AP Physics. I didn’t take too many of the history APS, I took an AP government class, whatever, I think micro economics as well. I took very honestly, I probably took around like 10, AP classes. A lot. A lot of AP classes. I think the only ones I didn’t take were AP, AP US History. And I think that’s probably the only AP class that I didn’t take that was that was offered at my school.

Kamila
And so did you take the AP test for any of these?

Jasmine
Yes, I took the AP test for pretty much for all those.

Kamila
And then so on, did your scores end up meeting the requirement usually like four or five, to transfer as a credit for college? So did you get like higher scores that you were able to push them into your like college credits?

Jasmine
Yes. So here’s the the thing with that is it’s very, it’s very hit or miss. And I’ve talked to some other people kind of about that. And a lot of people who, who I’ve talked to have told me, If you’re going to be local, if you’re going to apply to local schools, you should just do dual credit. And I tend to agree with them just because of, I think taking all of those APS, they didn’t they didn’t always transfer and there are some aps that I took, for example, I can think of I took AP environmental science, and when that transferred over It didn’t really transfer to any like science credit class, it was just an elective class credit. So I did get I ended up I think I got like a five or one out of four, I don’t even I don’t remember how, what the AP scale is, I got the highest that you can get for that for that for that class. And I was looking at my college transcripts like, Okay, what is this transferred to, and it just transferred to an elective credit for the rest of them, I was able to get, you know, I think I took AP AP Calculus, I took the AP class, I remember and I was able to get that credit transferred over for biology same I was able to get all the freshmen biology transferred over as well. But the issue that I ran into with the transferring of credits was that I am still a pre med and I knew that I was going to be a pre med whenever I was in high school. And a lot of those classes I would have had to take again. Anyway. So my biology class that I took the AP class for, I ended up retaking freshmen bio, I ended up retaking freshman calculus, just because I knew that it would be better for medical schools in the application process, if I retook those classes. And the same for for like English, I did get an AP credit for the English class that I took. So I didn’t ever have to take English in college. But I do think it would have been better even for medical school, if I would have just taken that as a dual credit class at a community college because I think those credits, they transfer a little bit better than even the AP credit does just because it is at a at a college level. And the APS they don’t it depends on like, what kind of graduate school you’re applying to? Or what kind of professional school you’re applying to whether or not having AP credit would be the best way to go, if that makes sense. Yeah.

Kamila
And so a lot of people they take APS, first of all to like, look impressive on your college application. But a lot of people also do it to save, save like a half a year or a year in the usually the four year college experience. So did you see any difference at all? Just in like how long you would graduate? Or did you find that, oh, I’m still gonna, I’m still on track to graduate in four years, taking these APS didn’t really do anything.

Jasmine
I would say that the best thing to do for me, it’s because I really took a lot of those classes anyway, it didn’t really save me any years, I’m still going to graduate in four years. So it didn’t really save me personally, if I had to give people advice, if they wanted to take a piece to save that, then I would say don’t don’t even bother taking, especially if you’re going to do pre med track, don’t even bother taking the science APs. Just because most of the time, you’re going to want to retake those anyway, to see what those classes are like at a college level. And in an actual I call it college setting because you don’t want to jump ahead into you know, more a more advanced science class and then realize that you don’t understand what the rigor of that class is going to be. And then do poorly in that class. I think taking like an intro science class at a university is much better than just using an AP credit. It’s a very different experience. But I will say that if people did want to just to use APS to graduate early, take all the history, take history, English, like all of the things that you would need to take to get rid of your core classes, take that, take the APS for that. So that would be like probably history, English. Maybe psychology, I think my psychology was one of my core classes, take classes like that, that, you know, maybe you even want to take the calculus class because you don’t want to take math in college, take those AP classes, don’t necessarily take things that are going to be related to your major because you do want to have the experience of taking that intro class at a university.

Kamila
I have another question. So you said you knew you were going to be on the pre med track. And I know some students do this where they like take the for example, if you’re a stem student usually take the math on the science AP is to show that you’re interested in that area. So would you still recommend someone doesn’t take those APS because they’re gonna have to take anyways? Like, do you think the showing interest in a certain field of study matters to a college?

Jasmine
I mean, yes, and no, I think that there are other ways that you can show your interest through your extracurriculars that I think might might do better. I mean, if you’re going to be a biology major, you know, by all means, take the biology AP, if you’re gonna be chemistry major, major, I think you you should if you if you want to just keep in mind that that might. If you end up being a pre med track, you’re going to have to end up taking retaking those classes anyway. And if that’s the case, then you know, you might as well just take the up in high school if that’s what you want to

Kamila
do. Yes, or like it applies to specific situations. Yes. Okay. So let’s move on to another part of your application. Did you take the PSAT or the ATT, I took both both Oh, really? Okay. So, first time you Why did you take both? Was that like, you wanted to see how well you would do on either? Or did you just happen to start preparing for both or something? So how did that happen?

Jasmine
Honestly, I, I took both, just so I could increase my chances if I did, I ended up doing better on the AC T than I did on the LSAT, just by by a little bit, but I figured it would be an addition to my application, I might as well just take both and see what happens.

Kamila
Okay, and it what kind of prep did you do to you know, prepare? Did you get books or tutor? What did you do to prepare for these tests?

Jasmine
So, honestly, I did very little preparation for either I think I, I think I have one book that I got from a book like reseller so Half Price Books here in Texas. And I just kind of looked over that I looked over some strategies, and that was pretty much it. And that’s all that I really prepared for those. Like I said, I knew I was going to go to a local university. And I knew that I knew that I would, I would get a score that I thought I would get me in. And I knew that my GPA was good enough that I was going to get into those schools. So for me, it wasn’t, I wasn’t really worried about it. Because I wasn’t, I wasn’t necessarily aiming to go to an Ivy League school, I knew that that wasn’t going to be the route that I was going to take. I didn’t want to go to a very expensive school out of state, I knew that I wanted to finish university with very little to no student debt. So then later on when I applied for medical school, I could take on some more financial hardship then and not now.

Kamila
Oh, and I have one small question that doesn’t really relate to the standardized test. But you mentioned something like, incredibly important, which is graduating at least your bachelor’s degree with no debt. So was that something that you came to your, like, came to a conclusion by yourself? Or did your parents help you because high school students, a lot of them tend to be headstrong, and like, Oh, I really want to go to this prestigious university, whatever, you know, Harvard or whatever sounds super exciting. And the money aspect doesn’t really kind of they don’t really think about the money aspect until they have the debt. So how did you come to that like conclusion that you wanted to graduate with no debt.

Jasmine
I’ll be very real, I have always had to think about that. For me, my parents are both immigrants. And I am not the first one in my family to go to college. My dad was an international student at the University of Houston back in the day. And so he ended up getting his bachelor’s and his master’s degree from the University of Houston. So I knew very early on what and he’s still paying off his student loans. And so I knew very early on that this was going to be something that I had to think about. And I knew that I come from a working class family. So I was never one of the people who was, you know, had the tutors had the LSAT prep. I was I was thinking, I was lucky to get into any local school at all, because the majority of my family has long gone to college, haven’t gone to university. So for me, my my priority was really how can I go to a university, stay home, stay close to home, help out my family, have a job at the same time, and make sure that I graduate and have no debt. And for me, it was let me just apply to local schools and not just, you know, apply everywhere. And being headstrong for me, I always had that very kind of realistic perspective about my own situation.

Kamila
And let’s go I wish a lot more students would have that perspective, because you know, they pay off. I mean, going to a local school is one thing and paying off for the rest of your life. But then there’s the really prestigious private schools that you got to pay lots and lots for. So that’s, I’m glad for you that you’ve figured that out really early. So let’s move back to the LSAT and AC T portion of your application. What did you if you don’t mind sharing? What did you what what was the score that you sent to the colleges?

Jasmine
Um, I think I sent my AC t score. And I got a I don’t know somewhere like I think it was like a either it’s range like 33 to 30 It was very it was it was high for the AC T. But I ended up sending that one because I it was better than my LSAT score. For whatever reason I actually didn’t really prepare for the AC T at all. I only ended up doing LSAT prep, I didn’t even have a book for the AC T or anything but for whatever reason I found that exam to be easier. And I know that I heard at the time. A lot of other people had the same kind of sentiment about the AC t

Kamila
really because I thought the AC T was a little bit harder. No

Jasmine
that’s I mean, what people were saying back then was that oh I the I scored higher on the AC T and that’s what ended up happening for me as well. So I don’t really know if logistically which one was actually harder.

Kamila
Well that’s because I’m focusing on the LSAT because That’s the one I usually people taking my state. And even if I had the choice between sa t and AC T, it’s like I wouldn’t do AC t, because I heard it’s much harder. But that’s, that’s interesting that you found that one easier. Okay, so let’s move on to my favorite part, which is extracurriculars. Tell me about the list, if you can remember, at least the major ones, can you tell me the list of extracurriculars that you did in high school?

Jasmine
Um, let’s see. I think I did debate for a while. And then I ended up being my school that I went to was a language school. So I took a lot of language, different language classes, and I became involved with a variety of different language clubs, I was part of the Hindi club, and we did, like Hindi dances and Indian culture and cultural dances, big performances like that, I was also part of the Italian club. And we did very similar things. And in the Italian club as well, we would do like presentations. And I think there was we went to several like field trips, and to like the, not the consulate, but they have an Italian community center where I live. And so we would, we would go there and perform. So that’s really all that I was really involved in, I was involved in a lot of cultural clubs, I was involved in debate. Oh, and I was actually also involved in the school newspaper for a while as well, I think that was one of the main, the main things that I was involved in. At the time, I was still deciding, although I always knew I was gonna be a pre med. I think in high school, what happens a lot of the time is that you’ll flip flop year after year, what you really want to do, and I mean, that happens in college as well. So there was a time where I thought I might want to go into journalism. So I tried, you know, joining the school newspaper, I enjoyed some of my time there. And eventually, I realized that I didn’t want to do that professionally. But the experience of being on the school newspaper was really interesting, and gave me some insight into what it would be like to be a journalist. Oh, and the decision to not do that.

Kamila
So when you said that you always knew you were going to be a pre med did that come from? Oh, that’s just a good career to be on, you know, it’s like a moneymaker? Or did you have like actual passion for it? So where did that pre med like thought come from?

Jasmine
Well, certainly wasn’t for the money. If I wanted to make money, I would be a venture capitalist or a stockbroker or something like that. So it wasn’t it wasn’t really the money aspect of it at all. I was in a pretty traumatic car accident when I was a kid where my dad was got very injured. And I wrote, I remember, I was around like, 11 years old, and I wrote in the ambulance. And at the hospital, I was waiting. And I was thinking to myself, even at that young age, like what’s going to happen if my dad doesn’t come back if he just dies? Because I saw him bleed out on the freeway. So I thought, you know, what’s gonna happen to me what’s gonna happen to my family, what’s gonna happen to my mom? And then, you know, waiting at the hospital, when the doctor came out and told us that he was going to be okay, he was injured, and it would, it would take a long time, a physical therapy, but the doctor finally told us that, you know, he was going to be okay, like he was going to live, I realized that that doctor gave me back my dad, because if it hadn’t been for if it hadn’t been for the doctor, if it hadn’t been for the medical system, I wouldn’t, I would have grown up without a father. And so for me, that was really that was my primary inspiration, I guess, on why I wanted to do that. I wanted to do that for other people. And you know that, at the time, it was more like surgery based now I am more interested in different aspects of medicine, but that’s what really drew me to the medical profession. And I would say that a lot of other well, there’s a good amount of pre med who do have a story like that, but there are a huge amount of pre meds that I’ve seen in college, who they don’t they don’t stick it out, you know, they’ll they’ll take a couple freshmen classes, maybe not do well and then realize that it’s not really for them. But the people who do stay Are always the people who have some sort of story that’s kind of that’s similar in some way where medicine really changed the course of their life.

Kamila
I sure Dad Okay. I hope he’s okay. Now. Yes, it’s been many years.

Jasmine
It’s it’s used, okay, now, and the only lasting trauma is my anxiety for driving.

Kamila
Okay, you gave me a heart attack there. I was just staring at the screen in shock. Oh, my God. Okay, well, I’m glad he’s okay. And that’s, that is a really big event in your life. So did you focus your essays or something? Or maybe a part of your college application on that, or did you just decide to talk about something else?

Jasmine
Honestly, I have. I don’t remember at all what I talked about my college essays. I know, for me, or in high school. I was like I said, I was very unmotivated. I had a lot of different issues that I was dealing with personally mental health, I just I don’t think that I was there maturity wise. Or really just I think a lot of the mental health issues that I had kind of led me to not be very motivated and not really want to succeed or care about succeeding or care about college care about applying, I didn’t even really see a future for myself at the time. And that all I was unlucky to say that that all really turned around in college. But yeah, when I was in high school, I was definitely not the go getter that I would say I am today.

Kamila
Yeah. So what was the motivation for you to, you know, continue on with high school, finish high school and go to college. So what like motivated you to keep going?

Jasmine
It was honestly, just the, like, expectation that I had, that my family had, for me, i Coming from a family where both of my parents are immigrants, I knew that I had to, I knew that I had to go to college, not just because, you know, I wanted to return on their investment of giving up so much coming here, coming to the US, you know, having a child in the US, like, obviously, I needed to use the opportunity of being in the US and having enough money to go to a local college, I needed to use that opportunity. Because for my parents, and later on, I became more motivated, because I saw my cousins start to, you know, grow up a little bit. They’re just they’re still kids, but I wanted them to have a role model, somebody who they could look up to that did go to college did go through the process, and would be successful. And so for me, that was really, I mean, that was the only real motivation that I had was okay, I need to make sure that I do this for my parents. And once I got to college, I think that all really changed. And I the I became more motivated, because I saw that I could really make a difference in the world and in the lives of others. And that’s that’s where I think I regained a lot of the my motivation to succeed and to do well,

Kamila
I’m glad you did. And we’ll talk about the impact College had on your like in in just a sec. But let’s finish up with your application process in high school and stuff. So you you gave us your clubs and extracurriculars you did. And let’s move on to the last part, which is letters of recommendation. So who did you get them from? And did you really care about them? Did you think they were significant at all? So how did you tackle that?

Jasmine
I really actually, I think my letters of recommendation were probably the best part of my application, I was able to be, I was able to get pretty close to a lot of my prefer a lot of my teachers in high school as particularly the ones that were my Italian language teachers. They both they saw something in me that at the time, like I said, I had mental health problems, I was unmotivated. And they they really saw something in me and my English teacher as well, my AP English teacher, my senior year, my junior year, one of my junior year, I believe. He also saw something in me and I felt like they, they really they saw a part of me that I didn’t really believe in, I didn’t really see my value, I didn’t really see my worth. And so it was really nice to have these professors, or these teachers see that part of me and I know that they wrote me a good recommendation letters because of that. And I was very, I was it was really easy to ask them for recommendation letters, because I knew that we had, we had made that connection in class.

Kamila
Interesting, because I’ve always not disregarded but kind of looked at recommendation letters as kind of the least important of the things but that’s good that it was like the really strong part of your application. So overall, when it comes to the different components of your college application, which do you think is the most important or the thing that you cannot like apply to college without so what do you think is the most important part of your college application? What would you tell students now to focus a lot of their attention on

Jasmine
um, I would say GPA is probably really important GPA. I mean, it’s honestly the entire application is extremely important, right? It’s really most colleges do holistic review. But I would say you know, make sure you have a good GPA because if you don’t, you’re really limiting yourself. This test scores is the same kind of deal you want to make sure that those are fairly high within like the averages that you’re looking within the averages of the colleges that you’re looking to apply to, but I would really say just think about your future and try to tell your tailor your application to what you want to do in the future. You know, show colleges why why they should choose you for that particular major you know, if you’re a biology major who you’re going to be a pre med go and apply to volunteer to hospital show them that show the admissions people that why they should choose you why prove your success in that field essentially. So if you’re if you want to major in psychology You know, take AP Psychology and you know, kind of follow that that path.

Kamila
And you said you knew you want to be a pre med. So did you ever consider doing an extracurricular that involved something with medicine maybe volunteering at a hospital or pharmacy? Or did you think that I think my application is good as it is,

Jasmine
I did end up actually ended up volunteering for Texas Children’s Hospital.

Jasmine
Tell us a little bit about that.

Jasmine
I think it was the summer before my junior year of college, and that’s volunteering at Texas Children’s and you know, being in the hospital every day. That’s one of like, the biggest hospitals that we have. I mean, the Houston Medical Center is the biggest medical center in our in the country, I believe. So going to Texas Children’s and volunteering there and driving there every day, or I think I was actually taking our rail system every day, because I didn’t have my driver’s license at the time. Taking the rail system there every day, walking around the hospital, navigating the hospital, being exposed to that environment was really great, because I saw what it was like to kind of be a doctor or what it was like to be in a hospital every day. And I really knew that I fit in with that kind of rushed, rushed and chaotic kind of environment that you find in hospitals. And I was really able to connect with with patients and with their parents, I mean, the patients, our children at the Children’s Hospital. So it was it was really easy. And I knew that it was something I wanted to do once I was exposed to it. And so I definitely recommend that for any, any pre meds that are out there. Definitely you have to volunteer at some sort of hospital or a clinic, just so you know that it is for you. Because sometimes what you the picture that you’ve made in your mind is very different than what it would actually be like in practice. So I think it’s really important to get that exposure.

Kamila
Okay, very good. Very good advice. Thank you. And one last thing we’re going to talk about, before we get into the college aspect of you know, your entire journey is you knew you were going to stay local, but I’m sure there are a bunch of university. So how did you choose the universities that you wanted to apply to? Did you visit and like the campus? Or what was your thought process? There?

Jasmine
are honestly for, for me, it was all about the price is what it is? What does the tuition look like? And how do I get away with paying the least amount of tuition possible? So that was really I mean, there’s there’s only a few universities that were in my city. So I applied for those I applied for some other ones, you know, I applied to some of the bigger the bigger state schools, but I knew that I would have to pay for like room and board and that would be even more expensive. And then I think I even calculated, like the amount of debt that I would incur, like by the end of my four years, and it was exorbitant. And definitely not even close to the amount that I have now. The I think my my student loans are very payable at the moment. So I think it was really just that that was what how I decided where to apply to. I don’t take any tours. I don’t actually think I took any tours, I had no idea what U of H looked like until my first day of class.

Kamila
Okay. So with choosing these schools, did you have in mind that you were going to get a scholarship? Or was it just the tuition, your family’s input or your input? And then the loan? Is that how you did it? Or were you hoping to get some sort of scholarships,

Jasmine
I definitely got scholarships. When I first when I first got my acceptances, so I knew that I was going to have some scholarships. So I did have some I ended up getting more throughout my college career that kind of helped me out. But majority I knew was going to be either myself working some for my parents, but the majority was going to be loans. And so I knew that it was going to be pretty, it was gonna be pretty tough to try to pay for it.

Kamila
And so what were the colleges that you did end up applying to

Jasmine
I think I applied I applied to you, which I applied to Trinity I applied to UT a&m. And I think that’s pretty much it. I think I applied to rose which is a private university. And that was pretty much all that I applied to. I didn’t get into rice I got into I don’t think actually applied to a&m, but I applied to UT I got into UT I decided to not go because of the cost associated with it. And God I honestly don’t I don’t remember if there was any more. There might have been some more that I just I didn’t go to just because of the same reason room and board just didn’t want to pay for that didn’t want to have to move away from my from my city for my parents for my family. And that was really important for me to stay nearby which I know for a lot of college for a lot of high school students. That’s not what they want to do. But I knew that it would be important for me in the long run to do that. So that’s how I made my decision.

Kamila
That’s the end of part one of my interview with Jasmine make sure to subscribe so you know in part two comes out but other than that, I hope to see you guys then